tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post4535463870755870031..comments2023-10-04T09:50:08.070-05:00Comments on Logismoi: 'Stages of a Discovery'—Guéranger & Me, Part 2Aaron Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-40290169996858057922010-04-21T05:37:09.461-05:002010-04-21T05:37:09.461-05:00I like your method of studying the hagiographic st...I like your method of studying the hagiographic stream of information by noting a peculiar quirk and then chasing it. <br /><br />There were metaphors to studying hagiography in the details of the chase your story provided. For example, you located the reference but not the entire set of 15-volumes in Oklahoma's only Benedictine college.<br /><br /><br />My experience with hagiographies is that they tease the reader with demonstrative claims. However, the claims turn out often to be hypotheses without substantial corroboration in text. Instead, careful readers must turn elsewhere and practice a sort of methodologic triangulation. That is why it is very important to carry a theoretical lens, such as you have deftly employed, to sift through the record. <br /><br />In short, the lens is faith in Christ alive in the hagiographies.<br /><br />--Ioannisedinmiamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440177689736586438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-23933011812668185282010-04-15T08:47:22.070-05:002010-04-15T08:47:22.070-05:00I downloaded some of the volumes of The Liturgical...I downloaded some of the volumes of The Liturgical Year at the Internet Archive. It's wonderful that they are still in print, wish I had my own set!Brigithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10500169174019662556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-91657489672943128362010-04-14T21:41:36.563-05:002010-04-14T21:41:36.563-05:00Dear Mary,
As the resident blogger, I for one do ...Dear Mary,<br /><br />As the resident blogger, I for one do not mind <i>anyone at all</i> tagging along, as long as I do not find myself getting sidetracked by arguments over various points that I wish to be taken for granted here (the rightness of traditional Orthodoxy & the Fathers/Saints and the basic goodness of literature & philosophy, even when pagan). In the 1.5 years or so that I've been doing this, I've only had to give the boot to 2 individuals: one was a Calvinist who insisted that I demonstrate that St John Cassian was right & Calvin was wrong, while the other was an Orthodox Christian who started responding to any references to pagan literature with the most obscurantist nonsense anyone has ever dared to post here.<br /><br />So far, Mary, you are on perfectly safe territory!<br /><br />AaronAaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-30551117828241314232010-04-14T18:55:20.832-05:002010-04-14T18:55:20.832-05:00Dear Aaron and all,
I hope you don't mind a p...Dear Aaron and all,<br /><br />I hope you don't mind a papist tagging along for the ride here!!<br /><br />What a lovely afternoon's reading. Saint Dionysius has a particular place in my own life that goes back nearly to the time when I returned to the church twenty years ago. I was fortunate enough to find Father Alexander's work as time went on and also Andrew Louth's studies. <br /><br />But this run of posts by you Aaron and Felix Culpa and Sir Sandinopolis are a real treat and I still have a few dots to connect before I can say that I've ingested them all.<br /><br />As for papal Catholics, I don't find AndrewL. or Father Alexander to be unsympathetic. I also find that they tend not to mis-characterize Catholic teaching as much as some other Orthodox writers do. That does not deter me from someone like Lossky or Father Dimitru but it does disrupt the internal dialogue a bit.<br /><br />At any rate I hope you don't mind my hanging around. <br /><br />I am older than some of you, I think, and my formal education is a thing of the past and I've gone so far beyond it but in a strictly auto-didactic and quite monolingual manner of going about it; the latter being the most frustratingly limiting thing for someone with a healthy and energetic curiosity about the Church.<br /><br />Please to meet you all and thank you, Aaron, for your generous spirit.<br /><br />MaryElijahmariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278394189405309838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-50372111596614809752010-04-14T17:23:19.692-05:002010-04-14T17:23:19.692-05:00Yes, you know, I was obviously sliding towards the...Yes, you know, I was obviously sliding towards the Papalist Masonic cabal or whatever. NOT. But there was a soft spot I had for certain things. It is well-calloused now, for better or worse.<br /><br />The Papadakis volume is excellent. It must be paired with the immediately preceding <a href="http://www.svspress.com/product_info.php?products_id=3316" rel="nofollow">Louth volume</a>. Louth is now general editor, thankfully. I didn't find the Meyendorff volume at all useful or enjoyable. He used a thematic as opposed to chronological format, which I thoroughly despise in a history. The Louth and Papdakis volumes (the latter including a chapter or two by Meyendorff, who began the volume but never completed it, thankfully) are excellent, though.Kevin P. Edgecombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16590490181739464401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-68409643694597940982010-04-14T16:27:08.761-05:002010-04-14T16:27:08.761-05:00I don't know much about Papadakis, but I just ...I don't know much about Papadakis, but I just got an e-mail about a traditionalist conference in Greece in a couple of weeks in which he will be presenting a paper (alongside Met. Seraphim of Piraeus, Fr George Metallinos, Fr Theodore Zisis, and Prof. Demetrios Tselengides from Thessaloniki).Aaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-49489327320680832432010-04-14T15:56:24.933-05:002010-04-14T15:56:24.933-05:00Kevin> So the Papadakis volume is pretty good, ...Kevin> So the Papadakis volume is pretty good, huh? I'm glad to hear you were cured of your latinophilia--it was really getting a little out of hand! ;-)Aaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-29512553407782384412010-04-14T13:08:42.946-05:002010-04-14T13:08:42.946-05:00...though annoyed with his papalism....
Make that...<i>...though annoyed with his papalism....</i><br /><br />Make that "disgusted" on my part. I'm reading the <a href="http://www.svspress.com/product_info.php?products_id=32" rel="nofollow">Papadakis volume</a> in the SVS Press series "The Church in History", <i>The Christian East and the Rise of the Papacy: The Church AD 1071-1453</i>. I'll just leave it at that, because like Mama used to say, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." I will say that I believe I am finally cured of a lingering latinophilic tendency!Kevin P. Edgecombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16590490181739464401noreply@blogger.com