tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post1088583676947157127..comments2023-10-04T09:50:08.070-05:00Comments on Logismoi: On the Teachings of EvagriusAaron Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-55007705457371365472011-02-25T14:17:45.508-06:002011-02-25T14:17:45.508-06:00You might also like Julia Konstantinovky's new...You might also like Julia Konstantinovky's new 2010 book...Andy and EmmaTrenierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17500452005721996471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-40158247194143686502010-03-20T10:51:44.089-05:002010-03-20T10:51:44.089-05:00Thank you for your comment. It's good to hear ...Thank you for your comment. It's good to hear from a real expert on the subject, & nice to know that you seem to agree with Fr Placide & Casiday. I am certainly very interested in Bunge's book--it's been on my Amazon wishlist for some time now. But as evidence for what you say about the cottage industry, when I decided to do these posts on Evagrius it was one of the few times that I've ever been confronted with too many sources just sitting right there on my own shelves. Not too many for a Master's thesis, mind you, but too many for a blog post!Aaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-14930568309562492212010-03-20T10:41:49.129-05:002010-03-20T10:41:49.129-05:00You should look at "Dragon's Wine and Ang...You should look at "Dragon's Wine and Angel's Bread: The Teaching of Evagrius Ponticus on Anger and Meekness" by Gabriel Bunge ( St. Vladimir Press 2009). Fr. Bunge OSB is perhaps the leading expert today on Evagrius.<br /><br />I wrote a master's thesis on Evagrius long before he became, as Fr. Francis Tiso states, a 'cottage industry". At the time I wrote it, one could basically count on one hand basic studies on Evagrius. Nowadays there are numerous books with some still being issued.<br /><br />I remember wrestling with the Kephalia Gnostica, ( in Guillamont's translation). I came to the conclusion that it was more a "psychological" than a "metaphysical" work, describing the process of re-integration of the fragmented self. The foundation of this argument is stated by Hans Jonas' essay, "Myth and Mysticism: A Study of Objectification and Interiorization in Religious Thought" where he argues that Evagrius used the Origenistic myth as a template for his "psychological" insights.<br /><br />Of course, one can easily confuse psychology and metaphysics and I think this is what happened by the sixth century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-27072939861191950032010-03-20T09:17:51.848-05:002010-03-20T09:17:51.848-05:00Mark> Thank you for your kind words. I'm gl...Mark> Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed it. To tell the truth, I was worried how this one would be received!<br /><br />Kevin> That's really cool!<br /><br />I look forward to your post on terminology. Perhaps I'll do my own as well!Aaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-8928377193968258272010-03-19T23:40:11.508-05:002010-03-19T23:40:11.508-05:00I think most of the work on Didymus has been in Fr...I think most of the work on Didymus has been in French, really. I've got an article here (somewhere!) that I couldn't find in ATLAS or JSTOR that summarized that kind of comparison. I need to find it.<br /><br />The manuscripts were found in Giza, as I recall, in or near the ruins of a monastery near the pyramids. How romantic! This was in the 40s. But I think there were a few more bits found in roughly the same area in the 80s or 90s, too. His commentary to Genesis is one of the newly (40s) discovered texts. I should look into that one again.<br /><br />I'll try to find the article I'm thinking of over the weekend!<br /><br />On your point about standardized terminology, I was just inspired with a post myself. So, more on that soon!Kevin P. Edgecombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16590490181739464401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-57590640690208632172010-03-19T21:26:11.990-05:002010-03-19T21:26:11.990-05:00Aaron, I appreciate this post more than most of yo...Aaron, I appreciate this post more than most of your posts, which is saying a lot. You've introduced me to a topic I know next to nothing about. And I'm sure I speak for many who won't comment. Thanks.Mark Montaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12810860235260674570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-1871201088727033852010-03-19T16:03:16.179-05:002010-03-19T16:03:16.179-05:00Oh yes, and the art certainly is Kopsidis--the kin...Oh yes, and the art certainly is Kopsidis--the king of the line drawing! Soon I hope to scan some more of his illustrations to the Astir <i>Philokalia</i>.Aaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-17956372855264687432010-03-19T16:01:53.399-05:002010-03-19T16:01:53.399-05:00Thanks, Kevin. I know what you mean about patristi...Thanks, Kevin. I know what you mean about patristic terminology. I really felt like the glossary of the Faber <i>Philokalia</i> was particularly misleading in this regard. To read it you'd think 1500 years of Neptic Fathers had shared a completely standardised vocabulary of technical terms!<br /><br />Good to know about Didymus! Obviously, my efforts on here are quite provisional, based on the limited resources I have at hand and usually only a minimum of internet research. Corrections are always welcome!<br /><br />I'm curious about the story behind the discovery of these writings. And has anyone yet compared them in depth with the teachings, real or supposed, of the 6th-c. Palestinian Origenists?Aaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-36555912927955321092010-03-19T15:28:59.916-05:002010-03-19T15:28:59.916-05:00Yes, that's a nice one. I'd bet that it&#...Yes, that's a nice one. I'd bet that it's a Rallis Kopsidis piece.<br /><br />Thanks for that. I'll have to read the Plested, but he does seem to be a bit too systematizing for my taste. That's so "old school". The usage of <i>kardia</i> and <i>nous</i> (and <i>dianoia</i>, etc) is typically slippery. I've been noticing that there's no single pattern of usage, and certainly no clear-cut definitions apppearing, as we see sometimes amongst those who'd map out the entire nature of man from sole to soul, with everything neatly organized. What are we? Thomists?<br /><br />I wanted to mention, too, that a well-preserved cache of Didymus the Blind's exegetical works were discovered relatively recently. Some are published in the Source Chrétiennes series ("<a href="http://www.editionsducerf.fr/html/fiche/ficheauteur.asp?n_aut=257" rel="nofollow">Didyme l'Aveugle</a>" is the author), and I think some further bits were found within the last couple decades. The exegetical material is classically Patristic (mixed typological and allegorical) and unexceptional in that regard. Perhaps (I've only sampled very little) some excesses in his allegorical interpretation are preserved, but all that I read was not unorthodox.Kevin P. Edgecombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16590490181739464401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-16985407715147127742010-03-19T10:05:44.733-05:002010-03-19T10:05:44.733-05:00Glad you liked it, Ben!Glad you liked it, Ben!Aaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714437334790446678.post-32152460151947299922010-03-19T08:39:34.561-05:002010-03-19T08:39:34.561-05:00You always use beautiful images on your blog, but ...You always use beautiful images on your blog, but this one is a favorite! Thanks for sharing.Benjamin L Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00489486832142866020noreply@blogger.com